Yes. Following September 11, I sat with my colleagues here in March 2002, the day that Nortel said they were cutting 15,000 jobs. We came out and said we thought there were between 250,000 and 300,000 jobs that needed to be filled in 2002. We were wrong; 500,000 jobs were filled. That was based on our barometer, but the answer is different because of the particular sector.
As Jay pointed out, 90% of the manufacturers are small and medium-sized enterprises, but I'm not sure there are enough of them to pick up the slack for the large firms. When it's the total population, they're able to pick it up, but when it's in a particular sector they may not be able to. It takes a lot of small and medium-sized enterprises to pick up 15,000, or 20,000, or 100,000 jobs in manufacturing. That's one example.
The other reason, we think, is that it's also regional. We have a lot of members in Alberta, in B.C., on the Prairies, and in Atlantic Canada, and in some of those regions they're doing very well. They're not hurting as much. They're not going to the States like Quebec and Ontario.
So those are two possible reasons. I think we might be in violent agreement.