Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and also thanks to the panel for coming in.
I just want to go back to the educational part, because I get the feeling we're a little concerned about not having enough skilled trades. That came from Mr. Bernard. Then we hear a mixed message, in a way--why are we doing these if we aren't going to have a manufacturing industry? I'd like to get your comments in terms of Canada and an attitude towards manufacturing in this country. I'd like to have that component of it.
Talk to me a bit also about the image. I know you've touched on it. Mr. Persichilli, I think what you have done in terms of working with a college is what is needed. We heard that last night, actually; I think it was in Toronto.
There seems to be this disconnect. We've talked about the disconnect between education and what is actually needed in the industry; I understand the cut in dollars, but let's take the dollars and make the best use of them. Can I get some comment on those two issues, please, about the image? How can we change that?
I think what I'm hearing and what we also heard last night is you're starting now at grade school. I think it's likely that part of it is not just the child, but the parents. What we've seen over the last few days is not the perception that most people will leave in industry; these places are much more like hospitals than like the old-style shops that we would have in our mind about manufacturing. I ask that of two or three of you.