We compete with about the same sized shops, and it's true, we're the banks. The people that can least afford it are forced to be the banks for the big three and the tier ones. If you really look back and analyze it, up until about five years ago we used to build prototype moulds, and then if you built the prototype mould, chances were you'd build the production moulds later for the vehicles. With technology and the computers today, there are very few prototype tools that are built. What they've done is move the production tools ahead and at the same time they're making us finance them. They're saying if you want to do this business, you're going to get paid in 18 months.
Ed mentioned EDC. I do have Canadian customers who are EDC-insured up in Belleville. You have to maintain a certain portion or ratio that has to be exports to domestic. We need more programs like EDC. Those are the things that are helping us get by, but the margins are tight. Nobody is making money in this town, and jobs are being lost.