When you compare China, for example, with what we have in Canada, there's no question that we have a lower cost of energy and we have better material costs. So how can they possibly be producing products and landing into North America at such low prices?
Obviously everyone goes to the labour component. If we have automation, in those products that are highly automated the percentage of labour is small. Even though the cost of labour is very, very small, it ends up being less significant.
I think we have to defend our borders against unfair trade. We've done that in the steel industry, and we need to do it now in more products downstream, because the Chinese have moved off the steel industry international trade and are now moving into the secondary products. We have to be sure that we can evaluate, under a constructed value model, what the costs are in each country.