I'm sorry, I should have explained this at the beginning of the meeting. Members are given very limited time to ask questions, and the members want to go through the panel because it's a very interesting discussion, but everyone is going way over their time, and I want to make sure all members get a chance to ask their questions. That's my role as the chair. I'm a glorified timekeeper.
So we need a brief question and a brief statement; otherwise members will not get a chance to ask questions.
So there, I've said that, and those are the rules.
We'll go now to Mr. Shipley for five minutes.