Thank you, Chair.
It seems to me that if we have all the other components here, the one that remains the big mystery is the refining marketing cost, and we don't even have an idea of what those costs are going to be or what those margins are going to be.
We have a pretty good idea from the Competition Bureau that it's 5¢ or 6¢ a litre. It's 6¢ in Ottawa. It's 5¢ in Toronto. He didn't say that, but he knows I know that is the case.
Let me ask this question. What would prevent an industry that we've seen going from 44 refineries down to 17, if Canadians were to really get green and curtail by 10% the amount of use of this product, from just shutting down another plant or removing another two refineries from the equation, so you artificially bump up...so demand remains static while the supply plummets?