On the other hand, every sector has its own problems. Right now, a lot of players in the pulp and paper industry—those sectors intersect one another—are drained. We need resources to modernize a number of facilities. They were modernized in the early 1980s, as you no doubt remember, because there was a wave of modernization. The Quebec government had developed a program to encourage modernization. That's not being done right now. Businesses have suffered a lot from what's happened in recent years. Chance factors, such as stumpage fees, add to all that.
Some flexibility is needed in order to adjust. Your government had proposed loan guarantees, which is still appropriate. We think the government should consider forms of direct participation, because there are a lot of those. That could be direct subsidies for concrete things like purchasing new equipment. It could be convertible capital investment. In Canada, as in Quebec, we could use the money from the Canada Pension Plan to make investments to help capitalize SMEs, which need investment capital.
You're right. In fact, I raised the issue of China because it's an exemplary case, but there isn't just China. We see that we need a government that moves to the front and defends us, and that shows it isn't afraid. If we need protective measures for three years, let's do it; let's protect our industries as long as that's necessary. Others are doing it. Why deprive ourselves?
You know the Beauce region. Procycle has been there for years, and we've managed somehow to have those customs duties imposed which give them a little respite. Now the government has decided that's no longer appropriate. I really wonder why. Perhaps they can explain that.
I also think there's a problem that...