Yes, I'll just mention a few things.
The fact is, the world is changing totally in terms of the trade picture for textiles and apparel. Harvey has made a case for the rules of origin to be changed under the LDC. I'm not taking issue with the statement. I support them, and we supported that change in 2002 when it was being proposed. But in point of fact, what that would do is allow those same people to make 48¢ a day sewing his fabric. That's what he's saying: “Let me ship the fabric so that it can come back”, but he would still pay them 48¢.
When we look at the changes in the world, what we run into is that there's no way to look at them with a clear picture in one little shot. The fact of the matter is, everything is changing, and Harvey and Eva have been successful because they've found strategies that work. They're usually in niche markets and usually focused on exporting into the United States.
There are lots of other companies in both sectors where there are success stories. We're here because you're dealing with problems, and we're going to bring some problems to you, but there are successful companies, and, my God, most of them don't issue press releases when they are successful. They stay to themselves and remain quiet.
The other side of it is, speaking to your point, that we are moving to a stage where there will be less direct employment in manufacturing here in Canada in the apparel industry. What's the upside to that? The upside is that those same companies, the ones that are surviving, are hiring more management, marketing, product development, and design people. You're seeing, in some respects, a transition to a white collar industry. Are there positives and negatives associated with this? Surely there are. We're here to tell you what the problems are, but I also would say there are success stories out there.