I don't have a specific number, but it's quite symbiotic. Today there's technology in everything. There's technology in prospecting for natural resources. There's technology in how you run the plants. They're much more automated than they ever were. These are things that are happening. We very much share the concerns of the natural resource and the manufacturing sector. And strange for us, because we understand that the solution has to be in more technology, more use of our technology, we have a problem getting smaller enterprises to adopt technology. They don't have the knowledge, they don't have the resources on staff. They need help to be able to see what technology can do for them and they're under pressure.
Now, at the same time, while we're all very conscious about the pressure on manufacturing and forestry and so on, we must be very conscious that the exact same forces are causing people to look at their investment in R and D labs and in advanced jobs and centres of excellence in this country--and those are Canadian-based companies as well as foreign-based companies--and asking themselves whether they should move them to Brazil or Russia or China or India.
The labs are not as visible as auto plants and that kind of thing, but as jobs, they're the primary jobs that we want at the core of our ecosystem. While Canada has not been seen as a low-cost jurisdiction, we had, and we still have, a cost advantage compared to the U.S.--notwithstanding the dollar--because of a variety of things such as real estate, salaries, etc.
But when there's a shift taking place, like in the value of the dollar, it causes people to relook, and our industry's quite concerned that our big labs are in jeopardy. That's like saying that we don't care about the big auto plants, we only care about the little ones.