I'll just take one very concrete example that struck me recently. I guess it was the latest report in Report on Business Magazine, looking at the forest industry and comparing the forest industry in Canada to that of Finland, where there's a very large research and development component. They've really developed quite a thriving biotechnology sector on the basis of the primary forest industry. So certainly, in terms of this argument about adding more value to our resources, sort of leveraging off important industries, in Finland they have a very strong sector that builds forestry machinery and equipment for export to other countries. They are building pulp and paper plants around the world. That's a service sector providing specialized engineering services.
The argument would be that you need the production base to lever a lot of that high-value service spinoff out of it.
There is a level where we discount the importance of manufacturing by just taking it as a percentage of the labour force, where it clearly has been falling, and part of that is from higher productivity growth. But partly it's just that the manufacturing sector has outsourced to other firms a lot of functions that used to take place, everything from cleaning to specialized payroll services. We count quite a lot in services now that used to be included within the manufacturing sector itself.