If you look at Africa, I must say the EDC is getting more and more helpful in higher-risk markets there. The returns are best. They need us there; we've been the number one engineering company in Africa for many years because they need us.
In the United States they have lots of engineering companies. So when we go there it's for specialized things, such as gold mining. We build gold mines. So we've built gold mines for Barrick in the United States.