Evidence of meeting #2 for Industry, Science and Technology in the 39th Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was chair.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Dan Shaw  Committee Researcher
Clerk of the Committee  Ms. Michelle Tittley

10 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative James Rajotte

Mr. Brison.

10 a.m.

Liberal

Scott Brison Liberal Kings—Hants, NS

I just want to make it clear that Canada's new opposition feels very strongly that in the interest of transparency and accountability we in fact should maintain the status quo.

10 a.m.

Liberal

Dan McTeague Liberal Pickering—Scarborough East, ON

And we need to keep it. That's a good transcript. That's a good line.

10 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative James Rajotte

Mr. Carrie, would you like a vote on this?

10 a.m.

Conservative

Colin Carrie Conservative Oshawa, ON

Absolutely, if that's the committee's desire.

10 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative James Rajotte

Mr. Carrie moves that we adopt the new “In camera meetings transcripts”.

(Motion negatived [See Minutes of Proceedings])

10 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative James Rajotte

I do need someone to move the old “In camera meetings transcripts” motion.

10 a.m.

Liberal

Dan McTeague Liberal Pickering—Scarborough East, ON

I so move, Mr. Chair.

10 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative James Rajotte

Thank you.

(Motion agreed to [See Minutes of Proceedings])

Now we have working meals. On the old motions it's on the first page, and it's after “In camera meetings transcripts” on the new document.

Mr. McTeague.

10 a.m.

Liberal

Dan McTeague Liberal Pickering—Scarborough East, ON

Mr. Chair, I just want to know if there's any question about subcommittees also receiving the benefit of working meals, in consultation with the chair.

10 a.m.

Conservative

Colin Carrie Conservative Oshawa, ON

That's a good point.

10 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative James Rajotte

They can.

10 a.m.

Liberal

Dan McTeague Liberal Pickering—Scarborough East, ON

Do we need to put that in writing, or is that just something at the discretion of the chair?

10 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative James Rajotte

We can add it if you like. We haven't needed it in the past.

10 a.m.

Liberal

Dan McTeague Liberal Pickering—Scarborough East, ON

I don't know if there's any need for it. It's just not been there before. I know the committees have relied on it.

10 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative James Rajotte

Mr. Carrie, do you want to explain the change in wording?

10 a.m.

Conservative

Colin Carrie Conservative Oshawa, ON

Basically we are clarifying that the cost of the meals is to be charged to the committee budget. Again, the wording was felt to be a little bit clearer.

10 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative James Rajotte

It's an effort to make the wording clearer. Is it acceptable? D'accord?

(Motion agreed to [See Minutes of Proceedings])

Mr. Stanton.

10 a.m.

Conservative

Bruce Stanton Conservative Simcoe North, ON

On this question of the subcommittee, I think there's a presumption here in the routine motions that in fact the work of the committee includes that of the subcommittee. I note in the wording that's been proposed here is included the phrase “as may be required”. I assume that to be an all-encompassing responsibility that the chair and the committee have been charged with to oversee in every respect. The subcommittee is in fact part of these routine motions as well. I think it's a good one.

10:05 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative James Rajotte

I think members have agreed to the new motion.

In the new one we have “Witnesses' Expenses”. Mr. Carrie, do you want to explain that?

10:05 a.m.

Conservative

Colin Carrie Conservative Oshawa, ON

Thank you very much, Mr. Chair.

Basically, it added “That, as established by the Board of Internal Economy and if requested”. Again, it brings clarification and a little bit stronger language. We've also added something because some people, when they come to committee, may require child care expenses. We feel that if somebody can't get child care expenses, for whatever reason, it shouldn't stop them from appearing as witnesses.

Again, it's a little bit better clarification of the language, and it adds “childcare expenses of the witnesses shall be reimbursed”.

10:05 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative James Rajotte

Thank you.

Mr. McTeague.

10:05 a.m.

Liberal

Dan McTeague Liberal Pickering—Scarborough East, ON

Mr. Chair, we would like that the old motion remain intact with the issue of day care expenses covered.

10:05 a.m.

Liberal

Scott Brison Liberal Kings—Hants, NS

Early learning and child care.

10:05 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative James Rajotte

Mr. McTeague, are you making...?