--Office of the National Science Advisor, which commenced, as I understand, from May 2004 on. I'll go back to my question.
In terms of the responsibility we have for value for public investment, and I would say again on average you have $100,000 of travel and hospitality, 13% of your budget, including numerous items, which are very small, very minute. I wonder how you can rationalize those types of expenses against the kinds of assertions you made, up to and including, by the way.... I mean, in the position you're in, would it not be perfectly proper to take a question from the Prime Minister over the phone, even if you did happen to be on holidays?