Do you go to them and say, listen, this is an important part of our economic sector? Do you go to the mining industries? Do you go the trucking industries and ask where you can help them in the universities to develop...not necessarily a better truck because the Americans are probably going to, or the Japanese, or the Germans will do that, but we can certainly make a better trailer. That's as an example.
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