I think you touched on an important point. You took forestry as an example, and it's a good example to the extent that historically our natural resource industries were very successful, but not necessarily investing a lot in their own R and D and innovation. In that sense, perhaps we have missed it. But I think those industries are very quickly realizing that the simple availability of the resource is no longer sufficient in today's competitive world. There are innovative ways of harvesting the resource, handling the resource, and adding value to the resource so that we don't simply--
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