We're not experts on public policy in terms of what the balance is. That's for government to decide. We're simply here today to tell you that from our point of view, the view of our members and what's happening in the scientific community, there has to be a rebalancing of that effort. We're here to say that, because we're looking at what's happening in other countries. If you go to see what's happening in laboratories and you see that there is no investment in science in that particular area, and they can't recruit, they can't retain.... We're here to send that message today.
From our point of view, there has to be a rebalancing and funding going back into intramural. We're not saying that it's not important to have industry involved. Many of the laboratories, including the NRC, have industry and university partners, but these laboratories are facing some crises.
That's what we're saying here.