I do believe there are a lot of benefits.
When we transfer technologies to industry through, let's say, a licensing agreement--that would be technology that we develop; we own patents on this and we'd like to license it--when we find a company interested in acquiring those technologies, we would be signing a licensing agreement whereby the company would be paying royalty fees back to NRC.
Every year we have between $5 million and $6 million in royalties that we collect. Now, it doesn't seem like a large number--$5 million or $6 million--but if you divide that by the amount of money we are investing in R and D, we are the most successful organization in Canada per dollar invested. On the licensing revenue per dollar invested across Canada, we're well above all Canadian universities.