Thanks. Those are excellent points.
Let me address the second part first. Maybe Heather could address the first part, or whatever she wishes.
On the federal-provincial interface or landscape, there are a few councils like this one at the provincial level, and there are some provinces that invest significantly in R and D.
I was in Edmonton at the end of March to speak about science but was asked to speak also about this council. There was an excellent turnout from the public service, at the deputy minister and assistant deputy minister level and others. The basic discussion was, how do we improve our relationship and team-play better together? That's an issue that certainly merits serious discussion.
Alberta and B.C. have councils. Ontario has a council, as do several others. Several have very interesting policies internationally on S and T to look at as possible role models. Several have weaknesses as well that need to be strengthened. Working in a collegial manner between federal and provincial jurisdictions on the R and D issue is very important for the future.