I was going to say it's definitely less than 10%. In sectors like the CIC, where you bring them in, they bridge that D component to make it a lot easier for us to work and collaborate with the university partners, with industry. So that's a way of bridging that D, but it's definitely less than 10%; the university or other funded is 90%-plus.
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