Thank you very much.
Mr. McCulloch, I just have a comment with regard to the built-in biases against community colleges. I think you're absolutely right, but I think things have changed, and I'm not sure we get that message out to young people. When I go to my schools and tell them that a commercial construction project manager can now make $120,000 a year in Manitoba, people don't believe it. I'm not sure that message is getting out there. So there may be some work to do there.
Mr. Florizone, one of the questions I asked in Ottawa with regard to big science projects was what the benefits to Canada are. We've seen your project today. We visited the level 4 lab, the disease control lab, in Winnipeg. And one thing you're not talking about is third-party success.
In Manitoba, Smith Carter Architects and Engineers Inc. is now involved in almost every level 4 lab in the world. They've benefited from $1 billion of work in the couple of years since they built that lab. Cangene is another one that's benefited hugely from that. You've spoken about UMA Engineering Ltd. here that has basically worked on future synchrotrons. I think that is something you should be talking about. We just heard about it in passing, and I think it should be front and centre. It would be easy to convince me to fund you $20 million a year if you told me that the spinoff has been this, this, and this.
I don't think we have those numbers very clearly. But I tell you, in Winnipeg it was very clear from Smith Carter Architects that the benefits have been huge. They've doubled their volume and doubled the number of employees. And that's only one firm. I think you should probably put that one front and centre.
So that's one of the comments. With regard to SaskTel, one of the comments we had this morning was that some of the start-ups and some of the smaller companies in the technology field were having a hard time getting on with bigger companies like SaskTel, because they're not tried and proven, if you will. What came to mind is that SaskTel actually signed a contract with a small firm in my riding in Manitoba that was an up-and-comer. So I congratulate you for that. Obviously, it's not everywhere in the world that you're seeing people having to go to IBM, and that's a big challenge, and we can talk about that later. I'm not going to name the company, but it was at a critical time in their career. You signed a contract with them and got them up and running.
I wonder, Mr. Florizone, if you could just comment on that. How come we're only hearing about these third-party successes as kind of an afterthought? I think it is absolutely one of the most important things we've heard here today.