The use of indirect costs for the affiliates programs is already happening to a certain extent, but the amount of reimbursement under the indirect costs program is 25% when the real costs are 50%. So that money is really spent in multiple directions, and there's not a lot of it allocated towards any specific use because the draws on it are so large.
I think there's also something that we can learn from the industry affiliates programs in the U.S. The example that I think of is Stanford, where they have 50 of these in play. They bring in close to 300 different companies associated with those individual affiliates programs. I think that's a great way of starting to engage the company, which is what I understand we're trying to achieve here, and to a certain extent trying to get them to change their culture so they value research.