I understand that. I'm on the TRIUMF board, and I go to these meetings and come out after meeting atomic physicists and....
A lot of people at TRIUMF, as you said, are fundamental physicists at the very basic level. These are the guys who gave us the atomic bomb. They've done a lot. You could argue about this, but there's an immense amount that's come out of those programs generated by people like them.
There are also people at TRIUMF who recognize the strength in what they've developed. They don't expect the investigators to do it, but they have the engineering background or just the smarts to understand that, well, if we can make all these funny isotopes and there are some guys down the street who are looking in brains with these isotopes, let's get together. That's how the PET program started here, and where the medical isotopes that Nordion produces all over the world came from.
If you look at almost any field that suddenly takes off, there's some fundamental discovery behind it. There are all these stupid examples: RIM, and computers, and chips, and all of that stuff. And we cannot tell where these things come from.
This Galvanox process started with a modelling exercise. Dave Dolphin was working on those kinds of molecules for 20 years and suddenly this idea came along to make a drug that, when you flash it, does something inside your head.
We don't know where they're going to come from.
The question over here is correct: these are not the high percentage winners, but boy, when they win, they win hugely. And our society has moved ahead because of a lot of these events. Universities are the only places we can do that. You're not going to do it in a company, or rarely. So I think, absolutely, you have to fund it.