I think it would be very educational for the committee to see that.
Mr. Brooks, you've mentioned some very important points about indirect costs, and you've also mentioned something with respect to affiliate programs. On the affiliate programs, could just get us some more information on how they actually work? They're new to us. You don't have to provide it now.
We appreciate the indirect costs of research, as we've asked a lot of witnesses what the ratios should be. So are you saying that if we increase funding, say, for the granting councils, there has to be a commensurate 25% increase for indirect costs of research? Am I reading you correctly on that?