As I say, it's a problematic thing, and really tough questions have to be asked. If the shareholders of that company aren't willing to finance the upgrades, why should the taxpayers of Canada do it? I also make the point that if that particular plant has been online and operating for three or four years now through taxpayer assistance, it probably means that there's some other plant in Canada that has fewer employees than it otherwise would have. And you always have to take that into account.
I don't have a magic answer. But I'm saying that there are tough questions that should be asked about that before the taxpayers' money goes into it. And so much of the discussion and the profile is given to the benefits, not to the opportunity costs of using that money. Those dollars, they could have been used to reduce poverty. They don't fall from heaven. They could have been used to reduce taxes across the board. As well, what I'm saying is that very often the output of that plant is at the expense of some other plant whose shareholders were willing to make the investment rather than go to the taxpayers for it.
That's why it's problematic. I'm not trying to say that there's a yes-or-no answer here. These are tough questions, but those are the sorts of things I hope get a good discussion.