Thank you for both questions.
Our industry adds value to almost everything we ship. We don't ship...raw logs is a tiny exception. What we ship is pulp and paper. The reason there are 825,000 jobs is that we've been adding value.
As soon as you go up the value chain to furniture and things like that, you go straight head-on in competition with the Asian labour market, and so we pay 50% above the average wage. In the value-added sector, once you go two or three levels of value-added beyond that, you're talking about very low wages. Of course we need it, but it is not where our competitive advantage lies. It's two or three levels of value-added, and that's what has created a huge volume of jobs.
On the question of sector councils, we are creating a sector council, but the focus is on human resources. What I am suggesting is that we have a task force of parliamentarians to ask what the winning conditions are to use our competitive advantage in global markets for Canada's forest industry. It's an area where we have a natural advantage. We're not taking advantage of it. Industry is ready to work with parliamentarians.
I think we should just get on and make the plan, because the market is out there waiting, and while we're talking, the jobs are disappearing.