Evidence of meeting #1 for Industry, Science and Technology in the 40th Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was chair.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Clerk of the Committee  Ms. Michelle Tittley
Dan Shaw  Committee Researcher
Terry Thomas  Committee Researcher

4:40 p.m.

Conservative

Mike Lake Conservative Edmonton—Mill Woods—Beaumont, AB

Well, we haven't voted on the motion yet.

4:40 p.m.

An hon. member

Well, we decided that this would be the motion for the--

4:40 p.m.

Conservative

Mike Lake Conservative Edmonton—Mill Woods—Beaumont, AB

No, I asked if we were.... Of course you have to vote on the amendment before you vote on the motion.

4:40 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Michael Chong

We will vote on the motion as amended.

4:40 p.m.

Conservative

Mike Lake Conservative Edmonton—Mill Woods—Beaumont, AB

No, no, excuse me. Now we go back to debating the motion.

4:40 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Michael Chong

No. Just to clarify, when we came back from the suspension, we agreed that we would table a brand new motion, and that's what we just did.

4:40 p.m.

Conservative

Mike Lake Conservative Edmonton—Mill Woods—Beaumont, AB

What? No.

4:40 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Michael Chong

We agreed because we had a number of motions and subamendments to the motions on the table when we suspended. When we came out of the suspension, we agreed to discuss the motion. We went through a number of subamendments that weren't agreed to, and we have just adopted the last motion.

4:45 p.m.

Conservative

Mike Lake Conservative Edmonton—Mill Woods—Beaumont, AB

On a point of order, then, Mr. Chair, I don't recall ever withdrawing my motion, which was my motion at the beginning. I don't recall ever having a vote on withdrawing my motion. It's not anyone's decision to make to withdraw my motion but mine, and I never withdrew it.

4:45 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Michael Chong

The motion, as Mr. Rota put it, was the motion that we discussed. It was adopted by the committee, and I am ruling that this is the motion that was voted on and that the committee has adopted. There were no other--

4:45 p.m.

Conservative

Mike Lake Conservative Edmonton—Mill Woods—Beaumont, AB

On a point of order, which authority, what rules of the House say that you can withdraw my motion? We never withdrew my motion. I never withdrew my motion. My motion is what we were discussing.

4:45 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Michael Chong

Mr. Lake, as a member of the committee, you can propose any motion. Are you proposing a motion?

4:45 p.m.

Conservative

Mike Lake Conservative Edmonton—Mill Woods—Beaumont, AB

Right now?

4:45 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Michael Chong

Yes.

4:45 p.m.

Conservative

Mike Lake Conservative Edmonton—Mill Woods—Beaumont, AB

I would propose then, if that's the case, that our allocation of time for questioning be that the witnesses be given up to 10 minutes for their opening statements, and that at the discretion of the chair, during the questioning of witnesses, time and sequence be allocated as follows, and that a member may yield their time to another--

4:45 p.m.

An hon. member

I have a point of order.

4:45 p.m.

Bloc

Robert Vincent Bloc Shefford, QC

A point of order, Mr. Chair.

The last motion has already been put to a vote and agreed to. So even if he moves another one, it is going to be defeated. In addition, I feel that we are getting nowhere. If Mr. Lake is not happy with the chair's ruling, he can challenge it. But he cannot challenge the motion that we have just passed.

4:45 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Michael Chong

Just one moment as I consult with the clerk. Thank you.

The clerk has informed me that routine motions that have been adopted cannot be amended unless there is unanimous consent. The clerk has also informed me that the committee, coming out of suspension, gave its consent that we would start with a clean motion, which was proposed by Mr. Rota and adopted by the committee. It is now one of the routine motions.

So is there unanimous consent on the part of the committee to--

4:45 p.m.

Conservative

Mike Lake Conservative Edmonton—Mill Woods—Beaumont, AB

On a point of order, Mr. Chair, when did we adopt the routine motions?

4:45 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Michael Chong

We voted on it--

4:45 p.m.

Conservative

Mike Lake Conservative Edmonton—Mill Woods—Beaumont, AB

No, we didn't. We haven't actually voted on the routine motions yet.

4:45 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Michael Chong

We voted on each motion individually.

4:45 p.m.

Conservative

Mike Lake Conservative Edmonton—Mill Woods—Beaumont, AB

We haven't voted on adoption of the routine motions yet.

4:45 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Michael Chong

We've voted on each of the 11 routine motions individually and they have been adopted. Unless there is unanimous consent to reopen the routine motions, they will remain as adopted. So I ask the committee: is there unanimous consent to reopen the routine motions, and in particular, routine motion 11? Seeing no unanimous consent, we will move on to other committee business.

I have two things that I think the committee should discuss. We have some time left. First, the committee has an opportunity to examine the supplementary estimates (B) next week, on Tuesday, at our regular scheduled time, if the committee so wishes. My understanding is that if the committee does not wish to examine supplementary estimates (B) next Tuesday, they will be deemed adopted some time that week, possibly on Wednesday.

Is it the wish of the committee to examine the supplementary estimates (B) next Tuesday?

Monsieur Vincent.

4:45 p.m.

Bloc

Robert Vincent Bloc Shefford, QC

I think that we could study the estimates. But we need the minister here. If he is not here, then no.