Evidence of meeting #38 for Industry, Science and Technology in the 40th Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was clause.
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4:25 p.m.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Michael Chong
Merci.
Are there any other members who wish to ask questions or to comment on amendment G-18?
Seeing none, I'll call the question on amendment G-18.
(Amendment agreed to [See Minutes of Proceedings])
(Clause 15 as amended agreed to)
(On clause 16--Application for review )
4:25 p.m.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Michael Chong
We have three government amendments to clause 16.
We'll begin with government amendment 19. It's moved by Mr. Lake.
Is there any debate on government amendment 19?
Monsieur Bouchard, avez-vous une question?
4:25 p.m.
Bloc
Robert Bouchard Bloc Chicoutimi—Le Fjord, QC
Does that include G-20? You mentioned clause 16 and G-19. Does that also include G-20?
4:30 p.m.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Michael Chong
No, they're separate.
So we're considering G-19 on its own, separate and distinct from G-20 and G-21.
(Amendment agreed to [See Minutes of Proceedings])
G-20 is moved by Mr. Lake.
Are there any questions or comments on G-20?
Go ahead, Mr. Bouchard.
4:30 p.m.
Bloc
Robert Bouchard Bloc Chicoutimi—Le Fjord, QC
Once again, I'd like to have an explanation from the officials concerning clause 16 of G-20. Could you justify the wording of subclause 16(2) as it appears in amendment G-20?
4:30 p.m.
Senior General Counsel, Legal Services, Department of Industry
Yes, once again, the idea is to simplify procedures. As a result of the changes approved in clause 15, we had to make changes to clause 16 and we simplified it at the same time. In spite of everything, it's really of the same nature as previously. It's merely simplified.
4:30 p.m.
Bloc
4:30 p.m.
Senior General Counsel, Legal Services, Department of Industry
Yes, it was, and we think it was needlessly complex. It was even difficult to read and probably to implement.
4:30 p.m.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Michael Chong
All those in favour of G-20?
(Amendment agreed to [See Minutes of Proceedings])
G-21 is moved by Mr. Lake.
(Amendment agreed to [See Minutes of Proceedings])
(Clause 16 as amended agreed to)
(On clause 17--Notice for production)
Monsieur Bouchard.
4:30 p.m.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Michael Chong
Not now. We are on clause 17, and government amendment G-22.
That is moved by Mr. Lake.
Are there any questions on the government's amendment, amendment G-22?
(Amendment agreed to [See Minutes of Proceedings])
(Clause 17 as amended agreed to)
(On clause 18--Application for review)
4:30 p.m.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Michael Chong
We have two proposed government amendments, beginning with G-23.
Before this amendment is moved, I would like the department to correct the discrepancy between the English language version and the French language version. In the English version you propose to eliminate lines 21 to 41. It's the same in the French version. But in the text of the bill it means you're stripping out seven lines from the English version. Do you mean to do that, or can you clarify for us what would you like to do?
Mr. Palmer.
4:35 p.m.
Senior General Counsel, Legal Services, Department of Industry
As I understand it, what we're talking about here is simply different drafting approaches used by our francophone and anglophone drafters. In our view, subclause 18(3), as amended, would have the same meaning in both English and French.
4:35 p.m.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Michael Chong
In government amendment 23 in front of us you're proposing to strip out subclauses 18(3) and 18(4) in English, but in the French version you're only proposing to strip out subclause 18(3). I'd like you to clarify what your intention is. Do you want to strip out subclauses 18(3) and 18(4), or do you just want to strip out subclause 18(3)?
4:35 p.m.
Policy Analyst, E-Commerce Policy, Department of Industry
No. We want to strip out the old subclause 18(3) and replace it with new subclause 18(3). The same goes for the French.
4:35 p.m.
Conservative
4:35 p.m.
Senior General Counsel, Legal Services, Department of Industry
Sorry, but no, you're right. That should be “to line 35”, to and including line 35.
4:35 p.m.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Michael Chong
Okay. So we are now going to consider government amendment 23.
I want to tell members of the committee that the English language version of government amendment 23 is incorrect. In the first line of that amendment, “41” should be replaced with “35”. It should read that “Bill C-27, in Clause 18, be amended by replacing lines 21 to 35 on page 15”--not lines 21 to 41.
The amendment we're considering is as I've read it. Are there any questions on government amendment 23 as I've read it into the record?
Mr. Masse.
4:35 p.m.
NDP
4:35 p.m.
Voices
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4:35 p.m.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Michael Chong
Are there any questions or comments on government amendment 23?
Seeing none, I'll call the question.
(Amendment agreed to)
We are now going to go to the consideration of government amendment 24. Do I have a mover?
Thank you, Mr. Lake.
Is there any debate on government amendment 24? Seeing none, I'll call the question.
(Amendment agreed to [See Minutes of Proceedings])
(Clause 18 as amended agreed to)
(On clause 19--Warrant)
