Evidence of meeting #47 for Industry, Science and Technology in the 40th Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was million.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Daniel Watson  Deputy Minister, Western Economic Diversification
Monique Collette  President , Atlantic Canada Opportunities Agency
Guy McKenzie  Deputy Minister and President, Economic Development Agency of Canada for the Regions of Quebec
Manon Brassard  Vice-President, Operations, Economic Development Agency of Canada for the Regions of Quebec
Denise Frenette  Vice-President, Finance and Corporate Services, Atlantic Canada Opportunities Agency
Pierre Bordeleau  Acting Vice-President, Policy and Planning, Economic Development Agency of Canada for the Regions of Quebec
Jim Saunderson  Executive Director, Finance and Corporate Management, Western Economic Diversification

4 p.m.

Deputy Minister and President, Economic Development Agency of Canada for the Regions of Quebec

Guy McKenzie

Yes, CANtex is one of the programs we manage.

4 p.m.

Bloc

Robert Vincent Bloc Shefford, QC

I have heard that this program will be terminated in 2010. Is that correct?

4 p.m.

Manon Brassard Vice-President, Operations, Economic Development Agency of Canada for the Regions of Quebec

We manage the program, but it belongs to Industry Canada.

4 p.m.

Bloc

Robert Vincent Bloc Shefford, QC

I see. But your agency manages it?

Did you know that it is going to be terminated in 2010?

4 p.m.

Vice-President, Operations, Economic Development Agency of Canada for the Regions of Quebec

Manon Brassard

The program authorities end in 2010. As to whether or not the program will be renewed, that is a question for Industry Canada.

4 p.m.

Bloc

Robert Vincent Bloc Shefford, QC

At this point, do you know whether the program will be renewed? Representatives of several industries have told me the program should be maintained, but it has been announced that it will be terminated in March of 2010.

So I'd like to know whether it will be renewed in March of 2010 or whether it will be terminated.

4 p.m.

Deputy Minister and President, Economic Development Agency of Canada for the Regions of Quebec

Guy McKenzie

Since we are not responsible for the program authority, and are only managing it for another department, unfortunately, we are unable to answer that question.

You will have to ask Industry Canada about this; it's a program aimed at the textile industry. The program authority will end at the end of the fiscal year.

4 p.m.

Bloc

Robert Vincent Bloc Shefford, QC

We're talking about infrastructure, and we know the Conservative government has set aside a lot of money for infrastructure, to spend it as it sees fit.

Are you familiar with government expenditures in that area?

4 p.m.

Deputy Minister and President, Economic Development Agency of Canada for the Regions of Quebec

Guy McKenzie

What program are you referring to, Mr. Vincent?

4 p.m.

Bloc

Robert Vincent Bloc Shefford, QC

I am not referring to any program in particular; I am talking about the infrastructure program set up by the government to spend this money as it sees fit. Are you not aware of it? I see.

You were saying earlier that an extra $10 million has been allocated for recreation. Can you tell me more about that $10 million? How will it be spent? There is also $48 million for bridge restoration. In what areas will that money be needed and what to you intend to do with it?

4 p.m.

Deputy Minister and President, Economic Development Agency of Canada for the Regions of Quebec

Guy McKenzie

The $10.8 million amount will be distributed as follows: $6 million for the Shannon treatment plant, $3.75 million for the Physical Education and Sport Centre…

4 p.m.

Bloc

Robert Vincent Bloc Shefford, QC

Where, in what city?

4 p.m.

Deputy Minister and President, Economic Development Agency of Canada for the Regions of Quebec

Guy McKenzie

In Quebec City.

4:05 p.m.

Bloc

Robert Vincent Bloc Shefford, QC

Thank you.

4:05 p.m.

Deputy Minister and President, Economic Development Agency of Canada for the Regions of Quebec

Guy McKenzie

We received $966,000 in operating expenditures for the Recreational Infrastructure Canada Program. We also benefited from a transfer of $120,000 from two departments—DFAIT and Industry Canada. They provided $60,000 each towards the organization of the World Conference on Information Technology, which will take place in 2012. The idea was to facilitate access to funding by the beneficiaries. This is an international conference dealing with information technology. Rather than having three departments involved, only one department will be responsible for managing this. As a result, we received two $60,000 transfers; that's it. That is what the $10.8 million includes.

4:05 p.m.

Bloc

Robert Vincent Bloc Shefford, QC

Is the conference on technology and information?

4:05 p.m.

Deputy Minister and President, Economic Development Agency of Canada for the Regions of Quebec

Guy McKenzie

No, on information technology.

4:05 p.m.

Bloc

Robert Vincent Bloc Shefford, QC

With the new budgets, what SME projects will be coming onstream soon?

4:05 p.m.

Deputy Minister and President, Economic Development Agency of Canada for the Regions of Quebec

Guy McKenzie

That is happening all the time. The total budget for CED is $446 million. There are two funds—one for CAF and one for RInC. The vast majority of the funding will benefit businesses, non-profit organizations or communities who need the money. A large majority of our clients are businesses which receive refundable loans.

4:05 p.m.

Bloc

Robert Vincent Bloc Shefford, QC

As a result of the economic slowdown, has there been an increase in demand?

4:05 p.m.

Deputy Minister and President, Economic Development Agency of Canada for the Regions of Quebec

Guy McKenzie

I must say that, under the Economic Action Plan, we have had a significant number of applications. We could provide additional detail in that regard. This has certainly stimulated the economy in terms of job creation, at least temporarily, while the economy is recovering.

4:05 p.m.

Bloc

Robert Vincent Bloc Shefford, QC

I read your brief and noticed that, as far as your agency is concerned, there has not been a lot of job creation. Indeed, on every page I looked at, there was always a gap. For example, it says that you had expected there would be 22 but, in actual fact, there are only 20. That means there is a discrepancy of 2.

You had made provision for human resources, but you didn't use them all. Why is that?

4:05 p.m.

Deputy Minister and President, Economic Development Agency of Canada for the Regions of Quebec

Guy McKenzie

The jobs created under the Community Adjustment Fund are relatively significant, and the numbers are increasing as applications come in.

On November 29, we had identified 9,837 jobs created in Quebec, and 1,741 jobs maintained, as a result of our agreements. This funding was intended as economic stimulus, in order to create jobs. Those are the most recent figures for that program, whereas for the Recreational Infrastructure Canada Program, job numbers are not yet available.

4:05 p.m.

Bloc

Robert Vincent Bloc Shefford, QC

You talked about slow economic growth in relation to RInC. How was that growth sustained or increased as a result of your investments?

4:05 p.m.

Deputy Minister and President, Economic Development Agency of Canada for the Regions of Quebec

Guy McKenzie

Your question relates to the Recreational Infrastructure Canada Program, I believe. Let's look at what exactly was invested. The Department invested $113.2 million under that program. The province will be putting in an additional $111.2 million. The municipalities, school boards and other recipients will be putting in $166.8 million, and there will be $2 million from the first nations.

Based on our $113 million contribution, our net impact on the ground, when the program ends in March of 2011, will amount to $480 million, although I imagine that the final amount will be very close to $500 million.