We heard some information from April. There's more accurate information based on the testimony of the last meeting when the BDC and the Canadian Bankers Association were here. Small business loans are up 54%, and in the high-risk category they're up to 60%, year over year. That's already on the record in testimony, but it will be a little easier for the researchers when they're doing a report to understand that this is what's on the ground right now.
