That's good.
I think that a liability issue is something that I've heard people comment on. The reality is that people don't really understand how it all works. There's almost a fear there or a hesitation. I think the default for people who want to contribute in that way on a board or as a director in some cases is to not do it because they don't want to put themselves and their families in situations that would hurt them.
Further to the simplification, this question may be a bit out in left field, but I believe Chris was talking about technology a little. One of the initiatives you've put forward as the minister for small business is the work on this BusPAL system that has been just fantastic in terms of reducing paper burden. Is there such a system? Is there a system that is more of an online type of system that helps not-for-profit organizations do the things they do?