It's a good thing we are members of CEP, the Communications, Energy and Paperworkers Union of Canada, because without the union movement, we would be wearing a ball and chain and be fed nothing but bread and water. Men and women workers owe their working conditions to the union movement.
Now, as regards Gatineau and Dolbeau, please consider this tonight. The infrastructure is recent. Mr. Paterson said the industry has to be converted and move away from newsprint and specialized paper. I can speak for the Gatineau plant. Its infrastructure is recent, it is good, and we have an effective recovery plan. We forced management to support the recovery plan. The provincial government, CEP and the Gatineau LDC paid $200,000 for a feasibility study. We have another study on protecting equipment, and the City of Gatineau will be paying for that one. They moved everything to Dolbeau. I can tell you one thing, it isn't hard to convert a plant to carton or other types of production.
I provided a document to my colleague, Mr. Nadeau, but I cannot give it to you—and I apologize—because it is not available in both languages. That document explains that these plants have to be converted to other niche production areas.
I will say more about this later if you give me an opportunity.