There is no doubt that effort was made both at the federal and provincial levels. That cannot be denied. But that is not the issue. The needs and the conditions in many cases, and particularly the magnitude of the problem, are the real issue. I referred to the program you announced not long ago. It represents $100 million over four years. The idea is a good one. It's about supporting innovation. We need demonstration in order to create markets. The fact remains, however, that this is inadequate. Companies must contribute at the level of 50%.
No bank is interested in the forest industry. If you talk about the forest to a banker, he will turn around and look somewhere else. We really are of no interest. Yes, exports are supported, and that's a very good thing. Some $16 billion in export value is supported through your programs. That is not insignificant, but today, companies need oxygen. Many Quebec companies, whether they have multiple plants or are family businesses, have demonstrated extraordinary imagination in seeking new market opportunities and developing new products. But they have reached their limit. That's what we were saying earlier. The consolidation process is not over yet. Unfortunately, we have not yet hit bottom. In that sense, there is still time to act.