Industry Committee on Nov. 1st, 2010

[The Chair, Conservative, David Sweet]

Thank you, Mr. Lake.

Do we have any other debate or comments?

We'll move to the clause itself. Shall clause 3 carry as amended? All in favour? Opposed?

(Clause 3 as amended agreed to)

We'll now go to clause 4, which has three amendments: Liberal-1.5, Liberal-1.6, and Liberal-2. That's where we left off our debate the last time: at Liberal-2.

Mr. Garneau, I'll let you move them and speak to them as well, Lib-1.5 and Lib 1.6, to give us an understanding of that, and then Mr. Malo--

Oh, go ahead, Mr. Malo. Sorry, Mr. Garneau.

[Luc Malo, Bloc, Verchères—Les Patriotes, QC]

Thank you very much.

I would like to apply the same logic we used when looking at amendments LIB-1 to LIB-6. Before we consider amendments LIB-2 and LIB-3, would it not be possible to finish with amendment LIB-4? We have already adopted amendment LIB-4, but amendment LIB-4.1 was added to the book. We need to deal with that part before moving on to amendment LIB-2.

[The Chair, Conservative, David Sweet]

You're speaking of amendment Lib-4.1 in clause 13. Is that correct?

[Luc Malo, Bloc, Verchères—Les Patriotes, QC]

Yes, because we have already adopted amendments LIB-4, LIB-5 and LIB-6. We just need to finish with that section. Then we can come back to amendments LIB-2 and LIB-3.

I imagine it will not take too long to adopt the amendment.

[The Chair, Conservative, David Sweet]

Is everybody agreed we'll move to Lib-4.1, then, in clause 13?

[Some hon. members]

Agreed.

[The Chair, Conservative, David Sweet]

(On clause 13)

I'm sorry, Mr. Garneau. I won't need you to speak to those others, but if you'd speak to amendment Lib-4.1, that would be great. Consider it moved as you speak to it.

[Marc Garneau, Liberal, Westmount—Ville-Marie, QC]

That's Lib-4.1?

[The Chair, Conservative, David Sweet]

In clause 13, that's correct.

[Marc Garneau, Liberal, Westmount—Ville-Marie, QC]

Yes, Mr. Chair.

This amendment is an amendment to clause 13 of Bill C-393. It's to restore the existing paragraph 21.16(1)(a) because it's connected to the restoration of the existing application process in accordance with amendment Lib-2, which deleted, as you know, subclause 4(2). That's essentially what it is. It's related to clause 4, but it is in clause 13.

[The Chair, Conservative, David Sweet]

Thank you, Mr. Garneau.

Mr. Malo, did you have some comments on it, since you directed us here?

[Luc Malo, Bloc, Verchères—Les Patriotes, QC]

Unless I am mistaken, Liberal amendment LIB 4-1, which seeks to amend clause 13, refers to clause 4, which we have just adopted. Is that correct?

[An hon. member]

We did not adopt clause 4.

[Luc Malo, Bloc, Verchères—Les Patriotes, QC]

We did not adopt clause 4?

[The Chair, Conservative, David Sweet]

No, we didn't. No, we haven't.

[Luc Malo, Bloc, Verchères—Les Patriotes, QC]

Oh, okay then. So we just adopted clause 3.

[The Chair, Conservative, David Sweet]

Yes, we just adopted clause 3, Mr. Malo. We have not moved on to clause 4, which has three different amendments: Lib-1.5, Lib-1.6, and Lib-2.

[Luc Malo, Bloc, Verchères—Les Patriotes, QC]

Fine. We need to come back to amendment LIB-1.5 then.

I apologize, Mr. Chair.

[The Chair, Conservative, David Sweet]

Okay. The amendment has been moved on clause 13 now, so rather than go back and forth, we'll finish this debate and then go back. Is that okay?

[Luc Malo, Bloc, Verchères—Les Patriotes, QC]

It is just that I thought....

[The Chair, Conservative, David Sweet]

Mr. Masse.

[Brian Masse, NDP, Windsor West, ON]

Mr. Chair, on a point of clarification, which clause is tied to amendment Lib-4.1? Are we going back to—

[The Chair, Conservative, David Sweet]

Right now we are directed to clause 13 and amendment Lib-4.1. I think there was an issue with the numbering and Mr. Malo was confused on that.

[Luc Malo, Bloc, Verchères—Les Patriotes, QC]

Mr. Chair, I thought that the Liberals' amendment.... I should have asked the question before asking that we discuss it. I thought the clause that amendment LIB-4.1 seeks to amend was directly related to the adoption of amendment LIB-4, which refers to clause 12. I was just wondering why it had been numbered as LIB-4.1. I was under the impression that it was amending clause 12, as well.

My mistake. I apologize.

[The Chair, Conservative, David Sweet]

Mr. Masse, then Mr. Garneau.