There always is, but I'm saying that the vast majority of players I speak with want to fund their pension plans well. Unfortunately, we have to build the back end of the system and the front end of the system to deal with the AbitibiBowaters, the Nortels, and the pulp and paper mill I mentioned in Nackawic, New Brunswick. We have to deal with people who will look at the pension law and the bankruptcy law, try to game it for their own interests, and put retirees and workers at risk in doing so.
It's highway traffic act planning. You have to deal with the worst drivers, despite the fact that most drivers are fine. If we don't do that, the risk will ultimately be borne by the good employers, who will have their industries' images tarnished, and also by workers and retirees, which I think is unfortunate.