The only thing that's very clear is that in terms of the over-the-counter derivatives market and the insurance for those derivative products, nobody can say who holds what, because it's not regulated or listed anywhere. It's impossible to say that there are no Canadian companies that are participating in hedging products on the insurance side of things or in the derivative market.
My anecdotal research, which I know from people at bargaining tables and people who are familiar with the finances of large corporations, indicates that most large institutions in this country have gotten in on the game of the derivatives market. The derivatives market today is $650 trillion, if you can conceptualize that, and the world economy at this moment is $45 trillion.
This is a global paper behemoth that puts the entire world's economy at risk. At the moment, those junk bond holders you were debating in your last session have greater standing than the Lorettas and the Gails of this world. I think that's why this bill that you're working on is incredibly important.