I think that at the end of the day, the facts you're going to extract from your witnesses should guide your thinking. What I'm encouraged by in this moment is that we've had a positive dialogue with all parties on the Hill around the need to do something about pension security. My worry is that by the next federal election, if we don't have something concrete not just for the Nortel folks, who have been very wonderfully vocal, but also for the tens of thousands of people out there whom you've never spoken to and who are worried about whether they're going to have to go back to work at age 66 or 63, it's going to be a major problem in this country.
I respect my industry friends here, but we're all bargaining, and the threat of capital flight and lack of access to capital has been the tried and true argument we've heard from our counterparts when we're in the position of political bargaining. The facts I have before me indicate that capital markets won't freeze up if we prioritize pension benefits more in the bankruptcy proceedings. Capital markets will freeze up, though, if we allow speculative derivative instruments to run roughshod over the economy. We've already seen a credit crunch on the basis of those players. Your government has had to deal with the asset-backed commercial--