Thank you, Mr. Chair.
Thank you, Mrs. Clark-Stewart. Thank you for being here today.
We've been going through a lot of different questions. I would tend to agree with you that pensions are deferred wages; they're just put off, through agreements that have been made between the employees and the employer, to be paid at a later date, and they are there.
One of the big things that sparked this was the fact that Nortel employees were, I guess, cheated of a retirement, for lack of a better word. I just want to clarify: you mentioned earlier that this bill will not affect Nortel workers, but you mentioned that there was a ruling in B.C.--