Right now there's a bit of confusion as to what UBB truly is. TekSavvy has been applying UBB for years, for probably the better part of 12 years. We apply it on the Internet side. There's an actual cost to that component. From the wholesale side, with Bell in particular, being as this is the topic, that has fixed costs that have, through phase 2, as JF mentioned earlier, been applied to all of the backbone services.
UBB needs to keep existing, but it needs to keep existing in a cost-based mechanism. This is where we differ very much from what Bell has said and what the CRTC has judged recently.