—as it does here in central Canada. That is a prelude to what I'm going to ask.
One of my colleagues, Mr. Toone, was talking about rural Canada.
Mr. Kee, you gave kudos to the government for expanding into rural Canada. We haven't seen any real move into rural Canada in about the last three years when it comes to broadband. We did it in the late 1990s and early 2000, but it petered out. We still have about 23% to 25% of rural Canada not accessing broadband. We want to see what your suggestions is for rural broadband to penetrate rural Canada.
I have the same line of questioning for Mr. Kelly, about small and medium-sized businesses in rural Canada. We have some examples of where there are success stories, but I know there is also a big hurdle to get into rural Canada because the broadband isn't there. Dial-up just doesn't cut it.
Mr. Kee and Mr. Kelly.