Evidence of meeting #17 for Industry, Science and Technology in the 41st Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was program.
A recording is available from Parliament.
Deputy Minister, Department of Industry
I was answering the second part of your question—
Deputy Minister, Department of Industry
—because you asked if there were any job cuts, and until any decisions are made, it is not useful to speculate as to what the impact would be on jobs.
Liberal
Deputy Minister, Department of Industry
Here you're into a small, delicate matter. It obviously will be presented to a cabinet committee, and when bureaucrats present documents and ministers sign them off, they become cabinet memos.
Liberal
Geoff Regan Liberal Halifax West, NS
If I were to ask what programs are to be cut or what programs are on the table, I'm going to get a similar answer, I presume.
November 30th, 2011 / 3:55 p.m.
Liberal
Geoff Regan Liberal Halifax West, NS
What are the current staff levels? How many full-time equivalents do you have now?
Deputy Minister, Department of Industry
We have about 4,000. There are 4,000 within Industry Canada, and then we have other organizations like CIPO, which are revenue generating. They operate on their own basis. If you put in the revenue-generating units, it's about 5,600.
Liberal
Geoff Regan Liberal Halifax West, NS
Can you tell us what they were in 2006–07 and subsequent fiscal years? Maybe you could provide us with those details on what the numbers were, the totals.
The other thing is, how much have you budgeted for severance packages or buyouts?
Deputy Minister, Department of Industry
I don't think we budgeted, partially because I don't know if we will have any—
Liberal
Geoff Regan Liberal Halifax West, NS
So that's next year maybe. See you next year.
The Parliamentary Budget Officer has provided a document that tracks all of the 2010 strategic review savings initiatives identified in the 2011–12 estimates documents. According to these documents, the targeted budgetary reductions for Industry Canada for 2011–12 were $6.1 million, of which $5.9 million were identified. The documents from the PBO also indicate that these cuts did not include any full-time equivalent reductions or program eliminations, as identified in the quarterly reports. Is that correct?
Chief Financial Officer, Comptrollership and Administration Sector, Department of Industry
We identified in the quarterly report the financial aspects of the reductions and explained the financial aspects of the reductions.
Liberal
Geoff Regan Liberal Halifax West, NS
I know the PBO indicated that 42 positions were eliminated at ACOA as part of the $5.4 million in identified savings. Is that correct?
Deputy Minister, Department of Industry
I regretfully will have to disappoint you again and say that we are not accountable for ACOA. Therefore, I have no data.
Liberal
Geoff Regan Liberal Halifax West, NS
The minister for ACOA would be, and I guess he reports to this committee? He'd have to report to this committee. So I guess there's no one coming from ACOA to answer the estimates. That's problematic.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative David Sweet
That's all of the time, Mr. Regan.
Now I'm getting the nod from the government, so we'll go back to the NDP for five minutes.
NDP
Philip Toone NDP Gaspésie—Îles-de-la-Madeleine, QC
I'd like to come back to the question I asked before. You said that some mapping will be done for the program, which is ending in 2012, and that there will be mapping on what there will be.