The Jenkins report more or less recommended taking an axe to the National Research Council Canada and totally reorganizing its activities. Minister Goodyear has said that he prefers evolution to revolution when it comes to the NRC.
However, and I think that this is what Mr. McDougall was referring to, we want to make sure that NRC expenditures are in line with the real industrial needs of the country and that there is a closer link between industry's needs and the NRC's work. Take the example of the aeronautical institute based in Montreal. I think 40% of its revenues come from the private sector. That means that companies like Airbus and Bombardier provide them with contracts. So the usefulness of that institute is well-established, because private industry provides it with a mandate in the form of contracts to meet their needs.
The objective that Mr. McDougall is trying to achieve with the other sections and institutes is to have really useful activities that serve people's needs. That is the direction he is looking in.