When we talk about metrics and how we evaluate programs, I will say that the OECD has said that Canada has some of the best metrics in how we measure our programs. But like you I would like to see a more detailed analysis and if there's a direct relationship between this dollar spent and that effect that has occurred. That is a little bit more of a detailed analysis, as you well know. What questions you ask and whom you're asking them of can determine that outcome.
In the beginning of FedDev our struggle was to create jobs in the very immediate term. We would fund a project that said there was a possibility of 60 jobs created. For example, the juvenile research diabetes program suggested that 180 jobs would be created. When we looked back, it was well over 200 jobs.
So those are the metrics we're using at this point. But a good example of what you're talking about—