We have to be persuasive through the channels we have, government to government or through international organizations, by saying, “Hey, you're not living up to your obligations.” They need to protect intellectual property of Canadians in their country, or else how can Canada extend those same protections to people from those places?
One big initiative we have at the moment, which Microsoft and other companies are working on, is cleaning up supply chains that involve stolen IT. So we're looking to pursue companies that have a supply chain that's all built on using other people's intellectual property and to put a stop to it. It's something that's going to take a coordinated effort and a long time, because those other countries that don't provide the same protection for IP rights make it difficult for us to compete. We need to make sure we stay on top of that.