We think open innovation is good only in the initial stages of technology development. More and more, we are seeing that businesses are interested in pushing this further. For example, there are projects with 3M Canada where resins will be developed. So we can get results, even in open innovation, that are very applicable and marketable.
At the same time, we are going to push that thinking more to take the research even further. There are ways to combine things and create a project architecture where the industrial fabric will benefit.
I find that surprising, but the businesses really want us to push the open innovation model further, to the point where we are almost at commercialization.