Extending on that, you talked about product being sold to you at tech-competitive prices, as a new technology. When we look at universities today, I get the impression from the testimony we've had from a number of universities that are actively engaged in helping to create these clusters of development and innovation that they are trying to provide that path to development, creativity, and ultimately to some form of commercialization, whether it's selling it to another entity or whatever.
Are we seeing enough leadership in the academic world in building that type of cluster, in either of your spheres?