Thank you. I'd like to go further on that, but I think I want to use the last little bit of my time to clarify the R and D question.
It seemed that you and Mr. Julian were on different pages in terms of Canada's funding for research over the years. I know what it feels like to be on a different page from Mr. Julian. We from time to time are on different pages as well.
Can you clarify Canada's funding levels for research and development and our role in funding over the past several years? And as you're answering that, could you touch on the successes of the knowledge infrastructure program? I know that was an important program for several stakeholders.