I appreciate the question very much, Ted.
Number one: the fact is that we consult, as I've mentioned before, with all the stakeholders we can possibly talk to. It's almost all I do. When I'm not in the House answering questions in QP, I phone presidents of universities and deans of research. We have round tables. Folks come to Ottawa, and I meet with them.
I met with the CANARIE people. I specifically asked them if they needed all this funding. We have an obligation to Canadians to be more efficient in these difficult times. The CANARIE people were very kind. They had that team spirit and were quite willing to work with the rest of Canadians who want to see a more efficient governance. They were the ones, in fact, who suggested to me that they could do with less. That's number one.
Number two: it makes perfect sense, when you have a product that people need and want, that some of them should pay for it. Not everything in life is free. I know you might want to say that it would be our universities and our students and these poor researchers; that's exactly who it is not. In fact, there are users of this incredible network who have the ability to pay something for it. it just makes sense that the Canadian taxpayers could have a bit of a break and that these users could pay a little bit more to it.
We will very carefully and softly transition—