Our experience reflects what Mr. Marceau just said, but there are different ways of getting internships. You can also have collaborative projects between university researchers and industry. Who does all of the work? It's the students, primarily. In that way the students, over a longer-term period of sometimes two to three years—and this is generally at the graduate level—have experienced working with that company or with a group of companies on different research projects that are very much related to the business needs of that particular company. They get that experience in different ways. They are not always kicking them out; sometimes it's on an ongoing basis. They have that interaction.
