About $27 million a year is available under the new IRAP, and it's between $3 million and $4 million for the Small Business Internship Program. However, I don't have the numbers for the BDC.
You are right, it's about $30 million, but that might not include certain programs. For example, I know that Public Works has a program which helps small- and medium-sized businesses to market their state-of-the-art technologies to various departments. That program has $40 million spread over two years. It is also a pilot project. I also know that Industry Canada has a website with information for small- and medium-sized businesses. I don't know how much it costs to maintain that site.