In that case, then, it would be a case-by-case analysis by the minister to determine whether it truly is influence or not. If you've got this whole chain and the foreign government is 10 rows back and it can only control or direct the actions of that one company, but then as you go through the chain, the minister sees that, well, there is actually no influence by the time you get down to the company, then it's not influence.
On May 21st, 2013. See this statement in context.